Episode 103: The Spiritual Dynamics of Sexual Ecstasy (Part One) with John Maxwell Taylor

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Join us as Dr. Patti talks with John Maxwell Taylor, author, Tantric healer, a professional coach, about all things spiritual and erotic. What is Eros? Why did he write a book entitled Eros Ascending? What happens when Eros descends? Learn about the power and beauty of fully integrated erotic energy. How can we use Eros to inform and empower our lives? What practices can we do to circulate Eros and what are the benefits? Learn about the phenomenon of eating our own energy... and how this translates into being an energetically self-sufficient person - the kind other people love to be around. Learn why others may be perceived as energy vampires, and how to avoid and remove that phenomenon in your own self. Learn how to renew and nourish your own soul continuously with vibrant sexual energy, every moment of the day and night! John Maxwell Taylor is brilliant, eloquent and inspiring! You will be deeply moved by this show.

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Dr. Patti Taylor: Welcome to the Expanded Lovemaking show. I’m your host Dr. Patti Taylor of expandedlovemaking.com, and I teach you how to make exquisite love. This is part one of a two part series. Today we’re talking about the spiritual dynamics of sexual ecstasy. A lot of people experience sexual energy. Isn’t that great? And then of course we all want to recreate that energy. That’s the hard part, or so it seems. Well what if that were easy? What if sexual energy and even sexual ecstasy was alive in us all the time. Here to teach us how to tap into and live into our orgasmic birthright is our guest for today. I am so pleased to welcome our guest John Maxwell Taylor. So hi John and welcome to the show.

John Maxwell Taylor: Hello Patti. I’ve been looking forward to this for a long time, so I’m delighted to be here with you.

Dr. Patti Taylor: Well I am thrilled to have you here. Quite honestly the moment I opened your book I had to have you on my show. So let me tell our listeners a little bit about you John. John is a British playwright, composer, actor, author, musician and more. Perhaps he’s best known in America for his portrayal of Carl Gustav Young in his self-penned award winning twenty character one man play Forever Young. He’s studied the works of several of the worlds most brilliant leaders in the field of sexuality, including Gergef, Montak Chia and countless other teachers. He’s a lifelong meditator and energy master with a private practice based in Cleveland. He tours the country giving workshops and also works with clients in person and by phone. And of course he’s the author of an amazing book newly released called Eros Ascending, as well as several other books and CD’s. Listeners, this is going to be an amazing show. We’re going to learn how we can literally use our bodies to experience a state of oneness and infinity, as well as orgasmic bliss. Well, lets just jump right in and start with Eros Ascending, the title of your book. Can you tell us what that means?

John Maxwell Taylor: Yes I can Patti. Eros is an archetypal force the purpose of which is to create interconnection and relationship between not just man and woman, but all life. And like all archetypes, if you don’t bring it into consciousness and work with it from the highest perspective, it’s going to get into your own conscious mind, it’s going to start creating dramas and making you act our scenarios in life that will force you to come face to face with those parts of yourself you may have disowned or still need to work on. Now in society today Eros is being pulled from the sky, as it were, and flung in the mud at our feet to serve our delusions about what sexuality is. It’s often used to feed the false personality and our idiotic ideas of who we think we are from a point of view of limitation. But Eros Ascending reverses that. It allows the Eros principle to spread its wings and lift us in ascension, not only in consciousness and in sexual ecstasy, but also in our daily lives, the way we interact with other people, the way we can embody this archetypal principle of connection with all life through moment by moment experiences in the, quote, “real world”.

Dr. Patti Taylor: Well I think that’s a really beautiful definition, and one thing I really love about it is that you are connecting Eros with our bodies, our minds, our hearts and our spirits all in that one definition. I think if you were to ask the man on the street or the woman on the street, whoever that is – or just a lot of people – they would say, “Oh Eros is love”, and they might think of that little kid with the bow and arrow that has shot you in the heart and wounded you.

John Maxwell Taylor: Yeah, yes, there was a statue in the town where I was born of Eros. It was also in a picadilly circus in London, you have Eros sort of standing on one leg leaning forward shooting his arrows into the crowd of passersby, so that’s the sort of common misconception. And of course the word ‘erotic’ comes from Eros, but, you know, that means a lot of different things to different people. One can be erotic in a sense that your sexual impulses are being related to your desire for higher consciousness and to ascend in life, or it can be kind of going downward into sort of even morbid fantasies and so forth that serve neither you, yourself, or the planet and actually disenfranchise you from a connection with your soul. So what it means to us is not necessarily what it means in and for itself. So our task is to find out what is Eros really. Not what we think of it, not what we’ve been conditioned, and you can only do this by experiencing it, by expansion and relation to it within yourself and also with a partner or with other people, and this can take place not only just in the bedroom but in many aspects of life. My goal and what I try to maintain within myself and do to a very large degree is to feel this powerful energy behind the form of my body all the time connecting me with all of life, and I attribute the power of Eros to this.

Dr. Patti Taylor: Okay, great. So we’re going to decouple any preconceived, at least for the purposes of this show, any preconceived notions that any of us may have of Eros as whatever we used to think it meant, and really take on your definition. So how does one get into that direct experience then in the larger sense of the word?

John Maxwell Taylor: Well one of the first things that we have to do is realize that we live in relation to ourselves in a rather imaginary state all the time. We have sort of inner pictures of who we think we are and then the image of the sort of person we would like to blend with and relate to in a romantic way and so forth. But a lot of this is – almost all of it – is actually based on past experience, and to really connect with anything you have to become one with it, and to connect with it words have to stop. Now as I’m speaking to you, I’m from Wales originally, the land of bards and poets, Dylan Thomas, I love the sound of the English language and like most people I love the sound of my own voice. But words are signposts, they’re just pointing to something. It’s like Bruce Lee said in Enter the Dragon, he was teaching and he has the accent, and he says, “You must be like a finger pointing a way to the moon.” He says, “You don’t look at the finger. You look at what the finger’s pointing to, you look at the moon”, see. So this very important, the words are symbols pointing to a truth that is beyond words, so that to get into a repertoire with the Eros principle, it will take you where it needs to go. So the first thing to do is we’ve got to get out of our heads and into our bodies, and in the day and age we live in today Patti, as you well know, it’s the age of information. We’ve migrated out of an organic sense of connection with our bodies, into our heads and it’s completely downloaded. You and are were talking yesterday, we like old movies, like from the 30’s, 40’s, 50’s and even to the 60’s, and what you notice about a lot of those actors, those beautiful beings is they don’t speak from their head when they walk on the screen, you can’t take your eyes off of them because they seem to be in full embodiment, whereas many contemporary actors, they’re all in their head. You know, they kind of, they speak in an agitated, it’s coming from the head rather than from embodiment. Well it’s symptomatic of the times. So we have to get out of our relationship to our sexuality, from being a head trip, into being an embodied trip, and I do this… As I’m talking to you now for example, I’m doing a spiritual practice, I’m looking in your beautiful eyes and I’m sensing your fabulous energy, but instead of being blown away, like, you know, guys they look at a beautiful woman and they go, “Ahhh”, you know, their mouth falls open, they look like idiots, you know. So I’m able to hang onto my socks while is sit here looking at your beauty, but at the same time I’m bringing a wave of attention from the top of my head right down through my body, down through my legs, into my feet. So it’s a constant grounding myself as I’m speaking to you. So this allows me to have a visceral connection with the energy field that is around my body that I can feel now developing as I’m saying this to you, as like a presence is growing, as I’m focusing upon you, and this allows relationship to occur, because, as I said, you’re very beautiful and one could easily, you know, spend a whole day just checking out your nose and your hair and this, that and the other, but that’s a long way around the mountain; it’d be very enjoyable but it might take some time, whereas if I just feel the aliveness of my entire being body and then look at you, I can feel the same thing in you and that’s a great place to begin to be engaged with somebody erotically because now your energetically connected and everything can follow from that.

Dr. Patti Taylor: Well that’s a really great answer and I really want to follow up on that. As a woman I can really feel when someone is present with me and I can feel the level at which they’re present with me. And of course I kind of like being checked out and appreciated and felt and sensed, I like that. But it feels good when someone is feeling me from their own sense of presence. I mean I think there’s a way where someone is feeling me from their own sense of presence and groundedness, because then I feel them and then I feel more of my own self. If I sort of feel them just kind of leaching onto me, sort of sucking out, trying to suck out something from me, it’s a little creepy feeling, but it’s like when I’m around you it’s sort of like I feel this space. It’s like I like being around you, and it’s a very attractive quality. So I was going to ask you kind of what are the benefits of doing this? ‘Cause I think our listeners are very pragmatic.

John Maxwell Taylor: Yes, well it’s pretty easy to describe and I’ll go about it this way: you know, as I’m looking at you right now, I’m looking into your eyes and my eyes are converging at a central point there and all the peripherals just fall into place around it. I’m aware, I can see out the window the trees moving. I’m aware of something over here on the right, but it’s not distracting me from the central thing that I’m looking at but we’re locked onto each other right now. We’re soul gazing, and we’re not doing it just with our eyes, we’re doing with this sort of sense awareness of all of ourselves, so it doesn’t obscure the details and more hyperaware of all the little things going on peripherally, but the problem is, you know, with other people, when a man checks out a woman he’s going to check out her boobs or the way she moves, and all that’s fine, you know. But these are, you can get so hung up on that that is obscures the large picture. And I don’t think women want to be objectified like that. A woman…. When I met my wife Emily, she said, “It was the first time I felt seen in my whole life”, and she was 48 years old, and when I look at a woman I’m looking at you and I’m not projecting my past experience of women onto you. I want to experience you as you are in and for yourself, and in order to do that I’ve got to get my anima projection out of the way. You know what that is? It’s like every man has within himself an idealized image of the perfect female, and guys meet a woman and they project that onto the woman. And, you know, she may like that initially but sooner or later she’s going to want to be seen for who she is in and for herself. So I’ve dismantled that, I don’t see that. I’m looking being to being. Here’s a vibrant energy field in front of me manifesting through the feminine form, and if I get my silly stuff out of the way, lucky me, because what happens is your energy field, that what you represent as a woman and as a universal principle, which is the yin forth, the shakti energy, falls upon me and I get a download. I don’t have to do anything, right. But if I’m saying, “Oh, look at her…”. Suppose your marry a woman with the perfect fake boobs but nothing else, you’re married right. You’re going to get, breakfast is going to be kind of boring after a while. You’re sitting there eating your Granola and thinking, “Great boobs man, but I don’t know about the rest of it”, you know. So it’s really focusing on the person as an energy being, you get the whole package. You get to enjoy the breasts, the vagina, the body, the face, the hair, the smell, the softness, all of that, but it comes enveloped by this presence and that’s what’s the beautiful part of it.

Dr. Patti Taylor: Yes, and that’s actually very erotic, and I think that’s where we’re going in this talk we’re having. I think this is the true eroticism. So we’re going to take a break, so please stay with us. This is Dr. Patti Taylor, and I am talking with John Maxwell Taylor. And you can learn more about John at his website, johnmaxwelltaylor.com and I’ll spell that for you: j-o-h-n, m-a-x-w-e-l-l, t-a-y-l-o-r, dot com, and we’ll be right back.

Dr. Patti Taylor: We’re back and we’re talking to John Maxwell Taylor, and we’ve been talking about what makes somebody really erotically present, and lets just continue with that. We’re talking about energy, and one of the things I loved in your book was the whole concept that we eat our own energy, and I was wondering if you could talk to us a little bit about that.

John Maxwell Taylor: Yes, I’d be happy to. You’ve perhaps seen the images of a snake eating its own tail. Well what this represents is a universal principle… One of the traditions that I’ve been connected with, which is the Gergef work, which is sometimes referred as asyteric Christianity or it has Sufi elements in it and so forth, is that the universe works on a principle of reciprocal maintenance, one energy feeds another. But the great overall picture of the universe is, the slogan or the formula is, “I eat myself to maintain myself.” Well the human being is a microcosm of the great universe so it’s the same principle. A human being eats its own energy. You put food into yourself, it turns into energy, your cells eat that, you put more food in. So that’s on one level. But there’s a greater level than that and that is that our sexual energy, which is the most powerful creative force in our body, can be used to nourish every cell of the body and every cell of the brain to create new birth within yourself moment by moment everyday. So the rule “I eat myself to maintain myself”, this is a principle that I’m applying right now as I’m talking to you, I’m aware of the connection between energy in my head – not just my brain but the total energy field of my head – connected to what the lower (unintelligible), the sexual energy center in the lower part of the body… It’s like two balls of energy connected by a lightning rod which is the spine. So I’m not looking for a big Kundalini rush, that all of a sudden runs up, I’m going out of my head and having an ecstatic experience, which his very nice and I do that, you know, but I’m talking to now here in the real world so I have this sense of pulsation of energy in the lower part of my body and a sense of pulsation I my head, and it’s magnetizing my spine right down through the core of my body. So the real world is the higher energy, the one in the head, blends with the lower, the one in the lower part of the body, to create the middle and this is where we live and have our lives. A person who does not live in their head, they feel themselves from the neck down to the crotch, as a solid energetic being, and this is only brought about “I eat myself to maintain myself”, so the energy comes up to the head and it’s coming down. Every time you breathe in the energy goes up, every time you breathe out it goes down, so if you’re not blocked it’s going on all the time and what it produces is a steady state of solid energy field all around you that you can rest in and that’s presence is full of joy, there’s ecstasy there, there’s love, there’s wisdom, there’s connection. And like I said earlier, it’s beyond those words, it’s just states. Love is not a feeling, love is a state of consciousness.

Dr. Patti Taylor: Well that is really gorgeous, and as I listen to you talk about that, and also when I read your book, ‘cause you do talk about this in your amazing book, Eros Ascending, it brings to my mind that some people just come across as energy vampires. And some people, you just, you love to be around them because they feed you and you feed them and they feel so good to be around, and so there must be that kind of thing going on, so I know you want to respond to that, and then I want to get some details about, you know, how we can sort of maybe learn to do this and teach our listeners.

John Maxwell Taylor: Well, you know, the whole vampire genre is very, very popular right now. I think the human race for the first time is coming to terms with the idea that people do feed on each others energies. Not draining blood, it’s draining energy off everybody. Everybody’s looking for a fix. Everything, you know…This, I say in a balanced universe it’s reciprocal maintenance. You and I, we’re nourishing and feeding each other through a mutual understanding that we’re going to bless each other as we sit here doing this interview by exchanging energy willingly and lovingly with each other. But I would say – and I don’t think I’m exaggerating – that 85 to 90 percent of the way people relate to their sexuality is in a form of getting, which is a form of energy vampirism. The woman has something the man wants and he takes it, when he’s done with it off he goes, and I hear so many women say, “You know, what happened? I thought the guy, you know, I thought we had the real thing and now he’s off somewhere else”, right. So this is what I call infrasex or psychotic sexuality in its worst manifestations, it’s the Eros principle being forced to go down. It stops being Eros ascending and it becomes Orpheus descending, going into the underworld, you know. So we need to really be very conscious of how we relate to other people and become custodians of this energy so that… And what is the great mutual measure of that? It’s a love that is based on purity and that’s got nothing to do with modelism, it’s got to do with non-grasping. I am not going to use you to obtain something for myself. There’s going to be a flow of reciprocal nourishment here, which we’re both enhanced by, and that frees you from any sort of degradation of yourself or the other person, everybody ends up in hands, so it’s, that way life is feeding you and you’re feeding each other.

Dr. Patti Taylor: Well I think that’s really beautiful, and I think… I think, you know, if you look around your life and you see that you’re surrounded by people that are grasping at you, you might just want to look and see what kind of energy you’re circulating inside of yourself. If it’s, you know, if maybe there’s an opportunity for you to refine and purify your own, the way you feed yourself so that maybe there’s an opportunity to have more self feeding going on and less, so that as you do more self feeding there’s less need for other people to grasp and, I think especially for guys who are like sometimes you get that needy graspy energy and they’re going, “Why can’t I meet a woman?” Well who are the really charismatic guys, right? They’re the ones…

John Maxwell Taylor: Well women don’t want men to be masters of them, they want men to be masters of themselves. And to be a master of yourself you have to, a man has to be able to connect the great, joyous, juicy as you would call it, creative part of their sexual center with the higher centers of consciousness in the brain. If it falls on their past programming they become automatons. You know the monkey mind that you hear when you’re trying to meditate and so forth? That is past programs for your non-creative energy from the sex center. But if you can bypass that and go to the highest centers in the brain and in the heart, what happens is all of that drops away and then you have that silence that is there when the words stop, and that’s where the power is. You know the constant thoughts and shifting emotions, it chops up the lake of consciousness into little ripples and wave and eddies and so full of restlessness, but true ecstasy arises out of stillness and presence.

Dr. Patti Taylor: That is so gorgeous. So we’re going to take a break, and then when we come back I want to see what we can learn so that, because we have an exchange with our listeners. We have great listeners on our show, I know that, so we want to teach our listeners on my show how to be, how to do some of this stuff. So please stay with us. This is Dr. Patti and we are talking to John Maxwell Taylor. And he has a great website, he has some wonderful other books besides Eros Ascending, which, by the way, I so completely fell in love with. It’s just an amazing book, Eros Ascending. He also has some other great stuff on his website, go check it out. Johnmaxwelltaylor.com, j-o-h-n, m-a-x-w-e-l-l, t-a-y-l-o-r, dot com. We’ll be right back.

Dr. Patti Taylor: We’re back and we’re talking with John Maxwell Taylor about the spiritual dynamics of sexual ecstasy, and why is it that some people are just so charismatic and you just want to be around them and what can we do to kind of be more like that?

John Maxwell Taylor: Well charisma is built into the building blocks of creation. I saw this program with Steven Hawkinge and they’ve gone down, they’re studying the subatomic particles and they’ve got down to quarks and leptons and so forth. It’s all so nebulous now what they’re looking at. It’s very hard for them to observe. They can’t really give it a name but they can give it qualities. And these qualities are things like grace, integrity, beauty, charisma. Aren’t these things that we all want as human beings? So it’s in cellular code, every cell in the body’s encoded with all of this charismatic magnetic substance. But if you’re stuck in false personality, identify with your idiot sense of who you think you are and who the people around you think you are, which is even worse… I have to tell you I see more and more and more in our complicated age that people are being run by their programs. You know that song from, “People, people who need people”? They should change it, “Programs, people who are programs”, you know. People are just being run by the subconscious mind all the time, and there’s, if we don’t identify with that, if we can step back and say, “Oh that’s just my brain talking” or “That’s just a thought coming up” or “Isn’t that interesting”, or somebody saying something and a resentment comes up, you say, “Oh look what’s happening now.” So we’re not identified with that. Tremendous amount of power is saved, and this goes into magnetizing the human being at a cellular level, which triggers with a code of your true personality in every cell. Each human being has a true personality, a false personality. False personality is created by trying to shapeshift to be what other people, you, other people think you should be and so forth. You end up inauthenticating yourself. But true personality is at a cellular level, and you know when you’ve had a great round of lovemaking and you’ve had a fabulous orgasm, a connection with your lover, you go and look at yourself in the mirror, at who’s that person, radiant, beautiful, magnetic, shining golden being there, because you’ve pressed the button that makes the code of your original true self manifest in every cell of your body and all of a sudden there you are. Then the phone rings, it’s your friend and she’s got a problem you talk about and then you’re back in the box again. So to not be identified with any of that stuff… I am not identified with this who this body/mind organism thinks it is. There is not John Maxwell Taylor, there is a being here playing the role of John Maxwell Taylor in the improvisational theatre of life and that’s it.

Dr. Patti Taylor: So… thank you for that…

John Maxwell Taylor: (Unintelligible).

Dr. Patti Taylor: Yes. What do you say to that? Can you talk a little bit about the circulating of the life force energy from the perineum up through the brain, and I love that part of the book. I know in men it gets into the subject of the ejaculation, and for women it just gets into the subject of the orgasmic energy, but I think that’s an important part.

John Maxwell Taylor: Well the natural flow of energy through the body is from the tailbone, the (unintelligible) and the sacrum area, up the back, over the head and down the front in a continual wave. It circulates like that where every time you breathe in it’s happening anyway. Most people aren’t aware of it, but… In a baby for example, I just saw this cute book of babies doing Yoga. They’re so flexible; they can get into all the positions, it’s just amazing, right. They can do that because their life energies free flowing through their bodies. One of the problems, things that really blocks people from experience deepest sexual ecstasy is that their sexual energy cannot connect with this natural flow of all of the life energy through the body. So it doesn’t get carried up into the brain and then down into the heart and into the internal organs and so forth. Very, I’ve got a very good repertoire with all my internal organs. As I’m looking at you now I can smile down, I’m doing the inner smile down into my lungs, my kidney, my liver, my heart, my spleen, and as the energy flows up and back and over the head and down the front, as it comes down it’s nourishing all of these internal organs, which, you know, the Indians and the Hindus believe that they interlog as each one has a soul, has a soul energy, a different kind of energy in your lungs to your kidneys and liver and spleen and so forth. So being in the flow of this energy up the back, down… So how does it start? How does that happen? How do you feel it? Well it’s just putting your attention when you’re quiet you can feel it. And when I stand close to a woman who has a very powerful shakti feel, like you do, it goes by itself. I mean I’m just whizzing at the moment, up the back down the, da-da-da. And if we were to kiss and I were to put my tip of my tongue against your tip of your tongue, which is what people are trying to do when they’re French kissing believe it or not, my inner circuit would connect with your inner circuit and the ecstasy you’re feeling would go into me, we would… What are you going, “Ahhhh”… She’s making sounds here folks. It will just flow. You know, you don’t have to make love. It’s, making love is happening through the two of you when that’s going on. So you might say it’s a transport mechanism, we sometimes refer to it as a microcosmic orbit, but we don’t want to get hung up on the words. It’s really, it’s like an intravenous feeding of yourself. You know, you put an IV in and the energy, the substance flows through your body. Well it’s like, this is like an IV of ecstasy that runs through all your circuits and flushes out the tissues so everything stays open and flexible like a baby.

Dr. Patti Taylor: I love your story about the baby. Didn’t you tell me that babies actually do mudras…

John Maxwell Taylor: Yes…

Dr. Patti Taylor: Little hand signals that the Indian Sages used to go in altered states of unconsciousness?

John Maxwell Taylor: Right, I gave a workshop in Oregon and some, a couple brought a recently born baby in and it didn’t make a peep for the two hours of the class, and I went to look at it afterwards and it’s lying in its crib and it looked like the Dalai Lama. It’s little face was all scrunched out, you know, it’s eyes were all squinty and it’s holding its fingers, it’s thumb and its first two fingers in the Yogi Moger. There’s a red blaze, a red mark at the spiritual eye point and the top of its head is pulsating up and down, and it is totally absorbed in the bliss of its own being. It has not yet been separated from that which it is, and we are all born in this state and we have been seduced out of it by a stupid society that has no interest in the truth, not interest in knowing what they are. They just want to do their, let the programs of life run away with them instead of being immersed in that, what they had when they were a baby. So I think the Yogi’s must have looked at babies and said, “They’ve got it. How do we do it? Lets put our fingers like that. Lets get the top of our heads to pulsate up and down, you know. Lets put the red dot between our eyebrows”, the Hindu paste, you know and so forth. And if you look at the back of a baby’s neck, there will be a big blotch of energy at the medulla oblongata, that’s a red mark there, because as the baby breathes in and the flesh is new the cosmic energy coming in from the back of the neck makes this burn mark on the neck, you know. So basically we’ve got to get back to our baby purity but have the wisdom we’ve gathered as human beings at the age we are now in life.

Dr. Patti Taylor: So how easy is that to learn for those of us who have been in this society for some period of time?

John Maxwell Taylor: Well one of the first things we have to do is to be able to let go and learn to, train ourselves to relax completely. You know, it’s good to just lie down for about five minutes on and off throughout the day, just lie down and let your bones turn to jelly. You ever been to Maui or Hawaii and, you know, after about a few days there you feel as if everything, you’re just jellified inside, you know, it’s like, “Ahhh.” You’re just so relaxed, you know. So letting go is huge because what the baby has, it’s not that it diminishes. It’s we who move away from it. So, you know, the trick is to really to be able to fall into that place at will and just knowing that it’s there and having the intention to look for it, it can make itself apparent to you, and you might try for a couple… Well you shouldn’t really try, just be aware, “I want to feel, I want to fall back”. Like as I’m speaking now, you see, I’m so relaxed, I can’t actually feel, you know, any joints or any stiffness in my body. All I can feel is lovely ecstatic energy just tingling all around me and in and through me, you know, ‘cause I’m so relaxed, I’m not obscuring my connection with my original pattern, which was what I was when I was a baby, so… That’s one way you can do it.

Dr. Patti Taylor: Well that’s hopeful ‘cause I think everybody could find a few minutes here and there to let go, couldn’t they?

John Maxwell Taylor: Yes, and of course if two people can come together and make love to each other… I can see you’re in this state now ‘cause we’re talking about it, because we’re focusing upon what’s real, aren’t we dear Patti, you know, and almost everything in society, modern society, is so externally fixated, the constant call is away from this. But to come back to this and to be in that state and to try to be there no matter what you’re doing, you know…. So to have moments like this with somebody where we’re sort of making love with energy and words as we’re sitting here facing talking to each other even though we’re not physically connected, there’s a huge connection with the reality of your being with the reality of my being, and it creates… This is what, you know, Radmila Moacanin, this youngian psychologist who wrote, on the back of my book it says, “Taylor understands the role of Eros as creating interconnection and unites man and woman, Eros and psyches, spirit and nature and heaven and earth, while seeding our hearts and minds with a sense that our true destiny lies in reclaiming for ourselves the beauty of love.” So that’s what a baby is the embodiment of, the beauty of love and our task is to reclaim that. And it’s not we have to go looking for it at the other end of the world; it right here, right now and when we let go and are willing to sink into that, it starts to emanate.

Dr. Patti Taylor: Wow! Well that’s really beautiful, and I just, I have to say I do find anywhere from a few minutes to a few hours a day to let go because that’s so vital to my vitality. I can’t imagine life without it. And what it does to my turn on is it just supercharges it and informs fuels and makes life amazing for me, probably for you too.

John Maxwell Taylor: Well one thing that happens with me is I sleep in this state. So, you know, men often wake up with an erection in the morning, and to wake up and have an erection that is there just, it’s just auto erotic. There’s not thought, it’s simply the life energy, while you slept at night, your chi, your life energy got purified and then it fills the genitals and the penis is erect by its own impulse and that energy, if the body is relaxed, that can, that sexual energy can spread through the whole body and go up to the brain and start to feed the brain, so the, you’re taking a conscious participation in the fruit of the feeding, the reciprocal feeding that’s been going on all night while you’re asleep. But it can only do this if you’re relaxed, and you know what, the key is nothing matters. All this stuff we’re obsessing about - people don’t like us, there’s this problem come up, you know, there’s the worlds going to, whatever, you know – that is just a big con job to take us away from being connected by ourselves, so the truly spiritual seeking person, sexual person who wants to be attuned with all of these forces, they just sort of buy into anything; not the worlds nonsense, not their own nonsense, other peoples. I love this statement, “I am what I am before my own conscience and God, and praise or blame makes me no different”, you know. So whatever’s going on, relax, you know.

Dr. Patti Taylor: Very beautiful. Yeah, I try and sleep at least a few hours a night in that state myself. Well we are going to have to bring this show to a close. Fortunately we have another part to this show where we’re going to actually talk about embodying this, so we have a whole ‘nother very powerful and fascinating dimension to explore. So to close up the show, you’ve actually been giving a phenomenal series of quotable memorable concepts, but I do want to invite you to leave us with one final quote to inspire us into our day here.

John Maxwell Taylor: Yes, well some of your listeners may be thinking, “Wow, they really talked about a lot of stuff. How am I going to remember this?” You don’t have to remember it. There’s a vibration and an emanation and a consciousness tied to what these words we’ve spoken represent, and that’s already gone into your brain. Too bad for you, you know, ‘cause it’s already in there, you’ve heard it now, so you can’t erase it, you know. But if you’re open and receptive while you’re asleep tonight what you’re hearing right now or have heard today is going to reconstitute itself in your consciousness, and when you wake up and open your eyes it’s going to look at the world and bless the world that you’re seeing. You don’t really have to do anything except just show up in a blissful relaxed ecstatic state and let life happen through you.

Dr. Patti Taylor: Absolutely gorgeous. Well thank you so much. We’ve been listening to John Maxwell Taylor, author of the incredible book Eros Ascending, just came out, state of the art technology information, and it’s also a very entertaining book on tantra and Eros and all things amazing. So thank you very, very much for being here today.
John Maxwell Taylor: My joy and my pleasure.

Dr. Patti Taylor: Yes. That does bring us to the end of our show. Thank you for listening dear listeners. Please send me, Patti, email at [email protected]ifemedia.com. For text and transcripts of this show and other shows, please visit our website, personallifemedia.com. And also please visit me, Dr. Patti Taylor, at expandedlovemaking.com, where you can join my mailing list, find out more about my products, services and events. This is Dr. Patti Taylor. That’s all for now. I remain yours in ever expanding lovemaking, and I’ll see you next week.