Episode 77: SACRED SEX AROUND THE WORLD: 5 ESSENTIAL SECRETS FOR THE BEST SEX EVER with Karinna Kittles-Karsten
SACRED SEX AROUND THE WORLD: 5 ESSENTIAL SECRETS FOR THE BEST SEX EVER with Karinna Kittles-Karsten, The Love Educator, internationally recognized speaker, founder of Sacred Love, Inc. international model & actress. She has been featured on the UK's Million Dollar Romance, NBC's Starting Over, and given advice in national magazines such as COSMOPOLITAN and SELF.
In this episode, Karinna enticingly reveals the 5 secrets of great sex harvested from cultures around the world. Discover Tongue Fu; the art of heart and tongue. Learn how to magically weave the 5 elements (earth, air, fire, water, and spirit) into bed play. Uncover new passion in Primal Lovemaking. Open up to feel and circulate sexual energy.
Francesca Gentille: Welcome to Sex, Tantra and Kama Sutra: Bringing You The Soul Of Sex.
Francesca Gentille: With me today is Karinna Kittles-Karsten. Karinna is known as the love educator. She’s the author of Intimate Wisdom, The Sacred Art of Love, the producer of the film Sacred Lovemaking and the founder of sacredlove.com. Karinna is an amazing woman who’s lived and traveled all over the world, who’s been married for six years, who practice what she preaches, and I am delighted to have her join us here today. Welcome Karinna.
Karinna Kittles-Karsten: Thank you so much Francesca for having me on your show.
Francesca Gentille: Well, you know, it’s always a pleasure to, to have authors and filmmakers and teachers such as yourself to, who live the life, who have relationships, who are working too, you know, everyday, like the rest of us…
Karinna Kittles-Karsten: Everyday.
Francesca Gentille: Everyday, relearning it everyday. And one of the things I found very fascinating about you and your history is that although you’re originally a girl from, a girl from Georgia, you’ve lived all over the world, you’ve been a model, and you’ve learned something, you had a journey. Could you tell us a little bit about your journey in, in studying and becoming the guide of sacred love?
Karinna Kittles-Karsten: Sure. Well, my first inspiration and education really came from living and working in Europe and all over Asia. I, at a very young age, you know, in my late teens, early 20’s, I went to Italy and I lived in Italy and France and Spain and Thailand and Japan and Australia, etcetera. And what, as I was working, what became compelling for me is actually watching how Italian couples would get together and they would court each other and go out on dates, and, and what would happen then with intimacy for them behind closed doors and how other people around the world, maybe in Japan, would court and also make love. And one of the things that I found was that there were great similarities, but there were also some differences. And I saw that, you know, one side of the world, like in Italy, the Italians, they love to flirt, they love to be demonstrative with their courtship and kissing in public, etcetera. But behind closed doors what you would find is there was this shyness that came out. There was the vulnerability, the uncomfortable spaces and, you know, I had some, you know, wonderful experiences, my first love experiences were in these countries as I was traveling, and… And so, it kind of shocked me that maybe an Italian would be so, so sure of them self out in the world, but when you got inside it was a little different.
Francesca Gentille: One of the things I’m hearing you say is that they’re known for their flirting and their romance, their seduction, and that that’s really, really, I lived in Italy for a year myself, is such a skill set of the Italian people… (Unintelligible) in America, yet America has an ability, a greater ability I think sometimes, to feel like we can maybe talk more straight forward about sex or realize that it’s an issue. What are the, what is one of the things that you noticed between American’s and some of the other countries? What do you think is our strength?
Karinna Kittles-Karsten: Good question. Well I think American’s in general are quite open to love and sexuality. But we have, you know, our, a lot of our ancestry is from the Puritans. And since that kind of has been passed down through the American culture, is those first Puritans that came over and they brought their mind set of real conservatism around sexuality and intimacy, and I think that’s why, you know, when you sometimes hear American’s talk about sex, there’s all the giggles and, you know… And then, you know, the flipside of that is that it becomes quite, quite, you know, avert and sometimes, you know, crude, and… And so there’s a little bit of a mix. I think that the strength of American’s in terms of love and sexuality is their openness, their openness to new ideas and their, their true desire for romance. I think that is a huge strength.
Francesca Gentille: We’re driven, in our culture we’re driven for sexuality, we’re open about it in certain ways, we’re enthusiastic about it in certain ways, and yet we have this very conflicted underlying thread of, of negative messaging…
Karinna Kittles-Karsten: Yes.
Francesca Gentille: that sexuality is bad or sacred or in some ways the body is dangerous and can lead us astray, and so we’ve got…
Karinna Kittles-Karsten: Right.
Francesca Gentille: We’ve got these two levels that are going on. In Italy, different, it’s somewhat different, much more support for this kind of, a man being very romantic and seductive and enticing and sensual…
Karinna Kittles-Karsten: Absolutely.
Francesca Gentille: But not necessarily having all the skill sets, you know, behind closed doors. And what about Asia? What did you find?
Karinna Kittles-Karsten: Well in Asia, you know, I found something a little bit different, and that was, and I’ll think about Japan, is there wasn’t a lot of hand holding on the streets and actually when couples went out, you know, they stood kind of a certain length away, you know, like a foot away from each other as they walked together or, you know, there was public displays of affection. I think it has changed a bit because there’s been a lot of influence for me, as from different places. But what I found is that behind closed doors, and I was, I had a very lovely Japanese boyfriend in Japan who, who I had a wonderful intimate relationship with, and what I found was that there was this incredible skill, this incredible, incredible attention to detail and to service of the other, of the lover, and how you didn’t see that in public, but it was present in terms of the display of, of curiosity and generosity and the act of lovemaking. And so, while there were, there were things that, you know, I would’ve loved for them to have been like the Italians in the way they demonstrated the outside, that was something very beautiful and special. But I walked away with, and it also gave me this real interest and curiosity and digging deeper into the Asian ideas about intimacy, as well as other, other ideas around the world.
Francesca Gentille: You know, I, one of the things that brings to mind is a fabulous book called The Pink Samurai. Where we have this underground river of the pilgrims and the Puritans, Japan has an underground river, which is the Shinto religion and the fertility, the celebration of fertility and sexuality in the body, and they have these wonderful love motels that couples will, you know, rendezvous in, and so they overtly…
Karinna Kittles-Karsten: Oh I love that.
Francesca Gentille: There’s this sense of propriet…, you know, being proper, but there’s a deep, deep tradition of honoring sexuality and it’s sacred and vital for health, for, for divinity, for, for, you know, being heart, body, mind and spirit in balance, and… And so, here you were, loving around the world, studying around the world, and you’ve harvested this for us, you gorgeous woman you, with, for us, five, five keys, now what do you call them?
Karinna Kittles-Karsten: They’re five essential secrets for having the best sex ever. And, yes, you don’t want to miss these, you want to like paste them to your wall, so that your, your bedroom wall somewhere maybe behind the closet door so you can peak at them. But number one is ritualizing lovemaking, is to make it a special time, you know, that’s something that you look forward to, whether it’s that you plan this two days in advance or something, that you have set time to ritualize lovemaking. Sometimes it can be spontaneous, it just depends on how much time that you have to set up that spontaneity and ritualize it. And one of the ways that I would suggest to ritualize it is to create a harmonious and sacred space. And, but, you know, we know that we are affected by beauty and by how a room feels and what’s, you know, what’s in it, what’s not in it. And so one of the techniques that you can actually utilize to create a harmonious and sacred space is feng shui. And this idea, you know, a feng shui chart almost anywhere, I have one in my book Intimate Wisdom. But, there’s, there’s a footprint that you can utilize in any room of your house or your whole house to create and enhance the energy of love. And so a couple of ways that you can do that is tapping into the elements. You want to bring out the connection, which dispenses when you make love. So one of the ways is how does the room feel; is it clean, you know, create clean space. You know, set, you know, put that clutter, all that clutter that you having laying around, maybe you have a basket that you can put it in in the closet, then you can take back out the clutter when you finish lovemaking. But put it away and just clear a space, and make sure that you’re inviting the element of air, which is open a window or open a door that you might have in a room of your house where you’d like to make love, and let just fresh air come in. This is, helps to invigorate you for lovemaking. You know, people don’t realize they get tired because they don’t have enough oxygen. And so just by opening the window, when you get revitalized you’ll actually be interested in lovemaking.
Francesca Gentille: That’s such a great idea, I never even thought of that, getting, getting more fresh air. You’re breathing heavy, you’re recycling the oxygen, and to get more of a flow. And I want to hear more about the, those five, those five steps to the, what did you call it again? The sacred lovemaking, the super sacred lovemaking?
Karinna Kittles-Karsten: Yes, the five essential secrets for the best sex ever. So one is ritualizing lovemaking. So that’s where we started for the, you know…
Francesca Gentille: I want to do that more after we come back from a break and a word from our fabulous sponsors. So we’ll be back in just a moment.
Francesca Gentille: Welcome back to Sex, Tantra and Kama Sutra: Bringing You The Soul of Sex. We’re here with Karinna Kittles-Karsten, the love educator, and she’s educating us about the five essential secrets of sacred lovemaking, and the first one being the sense of ritualizing lovemaking and creating sacred space. And what else, did you want to tell us more about number one or go straight to number two? What would you like?
Karinna Kittles-Karsten: Well I would want to just tell you that you can activate each one of those elements in feng shui. So we talked about air, with bringing in fresh air. You can activate your sense with bringing in some aroma therapy. So just think about that and how you can really set a harmonious and sacred space that will invite in beautiful lovemaking. And that’s a wonderful way to begin the ritual of lovemaking. There’s other things you can do; adding a sacred intention and communicating with a beautiful talking stick, that’s a ceremony of the Native American’s. But those are things that you can find out later on if you get sacred lovemaking. So I moving on to the next essential secret, and that is knowing the secret of the heart and the tongue. And this is very, very secret information, it’s something that the ancient Chinese understood, is that in Chinese philosophy and medicine, what they realized is that the tongue is the extension of your heart. So, when they look at the tongue they can actually see what’s going on in your heart. And when you communicate with your lover, the other lover knows what’s going on in your heart. So being able to communicate from you emotional love, from emotional truth, from emotional clarity is very powerful because it comes out through your tongue. Also your kisses communicate what’s in your heart. So if you don’t kiss your lover with your tongue, that says a lot. What does it say? What do you think it says?
Francesca Gentille: If you don’t involve the tongue, I would guess that it would say there’s a certain depth that I’m holding back in some way.
Karinna Kittles-Karsten: That’s right. That’s right. It’s like, I don’t want to give you all of myself right now. Or I may not want to give you myself at all. You know, “Let me give you the kind of ritual like peck on the cheek or peck on the lips and chao, see you later.”. There’s some, there’s something about when you give your lover your tongue, and when you really give it to them that it says, “I desire you. I love you.”
Francesca Gentille: You know, that is, that brings up that art, an art of the tongue; how we introduce it, how we suck on it. I think my lover is the first man I’ve ever been with who actually sucks on my tongue, and there’s something that’s actually very erotic, and yet it’s….
Karinna Kittles-Karsten: Very.
Francesca Gentille: just like don’t dive to a deep, you know, tongue/throat kiss. We often move in very slowly and very sensually and just almost rest our lips against one another and breath. And there’s these pheromones, these pheromonal portals that right are above the lip and beneath the nose that go straight to that reptilian brain, so going slowly into a kiss and then, you know, breathing and then deepening really creates a, a very primal bonding.
Karinna Kittles-Karsten: It’s very powerful. And you can tell everything about your lovemaking from those initial kisses. You know, how, how much chemistry you will have, how much your lover is willing to go, just, you know, how much passion you have for each other, just by that, you know, how you offer your tongue to the other. And it, it also plays into what I call, which is also from the ancient Chinese, is ‘tongue kung-fu’. Tongue kung-fu is the skillful combination of using your tongue, your teeth, your lips and your intentions to create great pleasure and serve your lover through oral, a oral service and oral pleasure. And so when you learn to utilize your tongue as just a complete extension of your heart, it’s amazing how powerful your skills will develop as a lover.
Francesca Gentille: You know, lets say something more about intention because you mentioned it twice now, that sense of setting a sacred space with intention and then using your tongue and your heart with intention. What do we mean? Is my intention “I want to be a great lover?” Is my intention that I want to bring blessing and healing to my love planet? What do we mean by intention?
Karinna Kittle-Karsten: Well I think that in terms of lovemaking, the intention can be slightly different each time because you may have different needs or desires at the moment you enter that space of lovemaking. So for couples I just say, “Where is you heart right now? Where does your body want to express itself?” So, a simple intention may be for the couple to say something together like, “I love you with all of my heart and I want to experience ecstatic pleasure that will bond us more deeply together.” You know, that’s a beautiful intention. And then as you make that statement, what happens is, that actually starts to occur is that more love starts to move through your body, more love starts to take up the space of, the sacred space that you’ve created, and your bodies actually open up to feel that pleasure that you’ve intended to come forth. It’s amazing. It’s like prayer, intention is like prayer, and I think that intention actually verbalized out loud is strong, stronger than it would be if you keep it inside. So I encourage couples to say the intention out loud before they make love. Exactly, it’s like it helps us refocus when our mind kind of wants to wander to all the tasks that we need to get done. It brings you back, keeps you centered in the moment, and that, that’s power, that’s where you feel the most pleasure.
Francesca Gentille: And what would number three be?
Karinna Kittles-Karsten: Three is to engage your whole body, your whole heart, your whole mind and your whole spirit. And when you do that, the more you bring of yourself, the more satisfaction you’re going to have, the more your nerves will actually start to enjoy themselves and tingle, the more you’ll feel. And so, it’s easier said than done, but the whole idea is that you can, you can say, you know, to your body, “I want you to open up and feel all of this. Now heart, I want you to open up and feel all of this”, and the same with your mind and your spirit, “I want you to open up and feel all of this.” Just that simple act will help you engage fully with your heart, mind, body and spirit. And what we usually do is we’re usually operating in one, one or two areas, we’re usually saying, “Oh, let me just physically have sex”, and that’s really what pornography is. Pornography is the physical act of sex. And there’s certainly a place for that, but there’s so much more to experience. And so the more of ourselves that we include-the emotional, our heart, in the space-it’s as it becomes rich, becomes so sensual….
Francesca Gentille: Mm. You know, I want to talk more about how we engage all of ourselves, our body, mind and spirit, and also how we invite our lover to do it. Because sometimes even if I’m ready, my beloved might not quite feel ready or prepared or safe to engage that heart, body, mind and spirit, so how do I invite them into it, how do I guide them into it in a way that is graceful and easeful, after a break and a word from our fabulous sponsors.
Francesca Gentille: Welcome back to Sex, Tantra and Kama Sutra: Bringing You The Soul Of Sex, with the wonderful Karinna and her five essential secrets. And we’re on number three, bringing, engaging our whole self and the whole heart, body, mind, spirit of our beloved. And please tell us more about how we do that, especially when it might be a little challenging.
Karinna Kittles-Karsten: Right, well when our lover has their own threshold to sexual intimacy, and this is where everybody’s stuff comes up because you’ll really start to see, you know, how, how open you are and how, where you shut down, and everybody does, so it’s just par for the course as how do you, how to get yourself back open. And so when your partner is not, you know, you’re more open to engaging fully than they are, some of the easy ways to bring them to the point where they can engage more of themselves, is to playfully bring their heart into the space. So one of the ways you can do it is actually just massage the back of their heart, get it kind of moistened up, not even saying anything. Sometimes we feel like, “Oh, emotionally, if we’re going to engage emotionally, we’ve got to say something.” We don’t have to say anything necessarily. We can just rub the back of their heart.
Francesca Gentille: What does that mean, sweetheart? I mean, I’m not going to reach into their, the left-hand side of their chest and, you know, massage them. But, so in the back, on the left-hand side, or…?
Karinna Kittles-Karsten: Exactly. Thank you. Thank you. It’s just taking your hand and putting it on the left-hand side of their back, back of their (unintelligible) and just massaging that area. And you may want to do that for just a few minutes, but you’ll find, you know, with someone that’s having a hard time opening up to you emotionally, that helps completely unlock some real tension that they really don’t know why is there, sometimes it’s there because we’ve had past heart break or, you know, our parents had a hard time expressing affection, and so it’s really, you know, we’re tight in that area. So just massage that area and see if you can just bring your, your heart, you know, the left side of your chest up to their left side of their chest and just, almost like a beautiful embrace, just kind of breathe with it, so breathe into their heart and inhale. And then exhale out of their heart. So it’s like, it’s like you become one heart, and there’s something so easy about that, and yet so powerful to bring the emotional aspect of a person into the space of lovemaking in that way.
Francesca Gentille: Would I do that in front of them, with my arms wrapped around their back, or could I also do that from a cradling position, if they’re leaning against me and I’m behind them.
Karinna Kittles-Karsten: You know what, you could do it both ways, but the way I think it’s the most powerful and effective is if you’re facing each other, and you can be actually, for instance if you’re a woman and you’re on top of your man, that’s a very sexy and powerful way to do it. You know, you put your hand behind his chest, you know, it’s on the bed and your heart is on top of his heart and you’re just massaging it and connecting in that way, and as you’re making love. I mean, I think that’s a very beautiful way to engage someone that’s resistant emotionally to that expression of emotion.
Francesca Gentille: And it’s so beautiful. I want to support and nourish and maybe even have those, that sacred intention, that prayer as I’m massaging my lovers heart in the back, you know, “You’re safe, it’s okay to be here. I love you. You’re safe.”
Karinna Kittles-Karsten: Exactly. And sometimes, and it’s great when you have that non-verbal intention at that point because I think sometimes, and I’ll say this in terms of the men that I’ve worked with, they’re less keen on verbal queues. They want to have a physical visceral experience because that’s what they respond to first and foremost. The verbal comes later and it’s an expression of the love that they felt in the moment. So if you’re helping a man relate into emotional intimacy work on the non-verbal queues and…
Francesca Gentille: And then if you’re helping a woman, work on the verbal queues?
Karinna Kittles-Karsten: Exactly. You know, say, say to your woman, “You know what…”, and I’ll just say this in terms of the physical body, is if she’s not feeling, you know, great about her physical body, she’s going to be less physically engaged, and so you want to bring her out. And some of the ways you can do that is, again, through massage, through maybe massaging her thighs, her buttocks, and at the same time just saying how beautiful she is. And there’s something really amazing about that because if you’re massaging, you’re (unintelligible) and saying at the same time, it immediately lets a woman relax and her sexual juices start to come forth, she starts to become aroused, but she needs that verbal queue, as well as the physical touch, the affections, not just to get somewhere, to get to her and to make love, but to actually feel that she feels really loved. And so the sections through the touch and through the words make a huge difference in her being physically engaged.
Francesca Gentille: Engaged. And one more thing to our listening audience about men is I just want to let you know, this is a big generalization, is that women so often through media, through everything, we feel so negative about our bodies, and no matter how beautiful you perceive that we are and you look at us and think, “She must know she’s gorgeous. She must know she’s hot. She must know what great breasts she has and what a great butt she has or how her legs drive me crazy”, we don’t know. No matter if we dress sexy to show them off… I could wear a skin-tight blouse all the time to show off my breasts and still not think that they’re beautiful. And so that, that, you know, to be prepared, to be asked over and over again when you’re with your beloved, “But honey, do you really like my breasts? Do I really look pretty in this?”, and to, that it’s just almost an unanswerable question for women, the way that we’re bombarded with the media…
Karinna Kittles-Karsten: Yes.
Francesca Gentille: is “Am I really beautiful enough? Am I really…
Karinna Kittles-Karsten: Correct.
Francesca Gentille: lovely enough for my partner to stay engaged with me?” So, so thank you so much Karinna for bringing that up, is the words for women as we’re being caressed is, “I love your thighs. I love your beautiful breasts…
Karinna Kittles-Karsten: Exactly.
Francesca Gentille: whether they’re big or small. I love your little itty bitty breasts” or “I love your big voluptuous breasts”…
Karinna Kittles-Karsten: Exactly.
Francesca Gentille: Or “I love your itty bitty butt” or “ I love your big voluptuous butt”, you know, “I love your tummy, your mother tummy.” You know, whatever it is, we feel so self-conscious, and when you unlock that key where we feel adored by you, that’s when the passions going to come out. Thank you. Thank you, girl.
Karinna Kittles-Karsten: Exactly. And the, you know, the goddess does come out and she’ll blow you away with how she can physically actually come into the moment and feel excited and feel powerful and feel like, you know, she wants to try new things. It’s amazing how that love and that affection just will turn the ignition.
Francesca Gentille: Whew! And what’s number four and five before, while we still have time?
Karinna Kittles-Karsten: Number four is try exotic, primal, animal lovemaking positions. And a couple of them I will share with you. One is called Soaring Phoenix. And it’s a really cool position to do, this is from the ancient Anisis text of China, is where you actually sit facing each other, so your buttocks are, lets say your buttocks on the bed, your buttocks are both on the bed, your kneecaps are up in the air, your feet are planted on the bed. So you’re facing each other and then both of your arms are behind yourselves, so your palms are on the bed behind you so you can lift yourself up, and you begin lovemaking, you connect, you insert, if you’re a man, a penis into the vagina, and then you lift yourself up and you move towards each other and then away, and you play with, you know, sometimes the man will chase and the woman will chase. So she will go towards him and go towards him and go towards him, and then he will go towards her and towards her and towards her, and then you can go together at the same time, moving towards each other and back, and there’s something, what happens is you look like these soaring phoenixes. And in a very eye to eye position, you’re looking into each other’s eyes, you see each others physical body and you connect, so… And it also for those who have trouble with having weight on them, if they don’t like weight on them, you know, either a man or a woman, it’s a great position to kind of both bear your own weight, but still make love in a beautiful way.
Francesca Gentille: Mm. So these, try exotic, primal, animal lovemaking positions. I love it, and I totally believe in the sacred primal. I’m glad that you’re bringing this up, so… It doesn’t all have to be sweet, like you’re having tea while you’re making love, but it can have this sense of rawness, this sense of playfulness…
Karinna Kittles-Karsten: Oh yes.
Francesca Gentille: Yay!
Karinna Kittles-Karsten: It’s so important. And, you know, one of the things you can do is think of your favorite animal and kind of mimic what you think that animal would act like in bed. I mean if it’s a tiger, you know, we have one called a Stepping Tiger, which you take the woman, the woman hangs over the bed, her hands are flat on the floor, and the man comes behind her and grabs her buttocks and she’s at an angle and it really helps the penis reach her g-spot. It’s a great, great position. You know, usually there’s the all-fours, but there’s not a diagonal angle and this really helps. So it’s Stepping Tigers, there’s all kinds of great positions, so find your own animal and get wild.
Francesca Gentille: Get wild. And a lot of those kama sutra, you know, lovemaking books have positions, and it’s just fun to try them sometimes, because of the way your bodies work, it won’t work. But you’ll try one and you’ll just laugh and say, “Oh my god a Yoga to do that one”. And sometimes you’ll discover one that you didn’t even think you could do, your body actually fits beautifully with your beloved. So what’s number five?
Karinna Kittles-Karsten: Number five is learn to circulate your sexual energy. And that is a very powerful ancient Asian technique, and one that if you learn it it can change your life in terms of being able to experience sexual pleasure and more than one orgasm for men and women. And so the way you start to do that is what the ancient Chinese call, it is developing (unintelligible) your sexual elixir. And most people have heard of kegel exercises. Well it’s very similar to that where a man or a woman will contract their PC muscles, which is on the very bottom of, between the genitals and the anus, and that spot, it’s called the perineum point, you squeeze it. You squeeze it and that will contract the, a woman’s vagina, it will squeeze together. And the man, what you do is your testicles will draw up and you will squeeze the tip of your penis so that it closes. And so it’s learning to draw up your sexual energy through that process and refine what can be heavy energy based on if you’ve had sexual trauma, if you’ve had a bad sexual experience, if you’ve been betrayed or if you’ve just never worked with sexual energy, it can be very flat, very dense energy in your pelvic region. What you want to do is lighten it, refine it, and the more you use that muscle, the, developing your PC muscles and cultivating your sexual elixir, it becomes really light energy, and it’s very aroused energy, and then once you do that then you can circulate it by moving it up into the energy sensor along your spine, there’s a whole map in both the Chinese and the tantric practices. They vary from each other, but they’re similar. And I’ll talk about the Chinese, where you bring it up to the base of the spine, the flat part of your spine, and then up to the point opposite your navel, then opposite your solar plexus, opposite your heart, on the lowest part of your throat on the back, then the base of your skull and the top of your head, and then you let that energy come down, come… And as it comes down it flows like a fluid back down to your navel, and you can circulate it as many times as you’re making love. And what happens is both the woman and the man start to utilize this practice together, and they make one sexual elixir, and they bring it up and around each other’s cosmic orbit and create beautiful orgasmic experiences, a sense of oneness, a sense of true meaning and sacred artistry.
Francesca Gentille: I wish we had even longer to go into this, more about cosmic orbit, which I’m pretty sure we all want to be on, and also the tantric way of doing it and the difference between the Chinese and the tantric. And we’re out of time for today, but how would people get connected to you and get your book and….
Karinna Kittles-Karsten: Absolutely.
Francesca Gentille: work with you?
Karinna Kittles-Karsten: Well my website is sacredlove.com. And, you know, all the things that I’ve been talking about today is in my DVD, Sacred Lovemaking, which you can find right on the home page, it’ll take you to a link that you can see a little video and you can buy it if you so choose. And also for those of you who’ve listened today, if you go on the left side all the way down at the bottom of the home page, there’s, for radio listeners, you can get a free gift if you remember this word: intimate. So type in that word intimate and you get a free gift for listening to this radio show today.
Francesca Gentille: Thank you so much for joining us Karinna, and for having this beautiful life, which has allowed you to harvest all this wisdom that you continue to be blessed.
Karinna Kittles-Karsten: Well thank you so much for having me on. It’s a pleasure to be on the show with you, and you have a beautiful, beautiful presence and a wonderful, you’re giving a wonderful gift to humanity, so thank you so much Francesca.
Francesca Gentille: Thank you sweetheart. And for you our listening audience, thank you for being here with us and being part of this community of love and spirit. And you can find out about Karinna, see her gorgeous picture, get to her website, get transcripts, transcripts from this show, get connected with me and my work at www.personallifemedia.com. That’s www.personallifemedia.com, Sex, Tantra and Kama Sutra: Bringing You The Soul Of Sex.